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Damm Straight!

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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/09/07/SPLDS0DKA.DTL

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Re: Damm Straight!
I like these parts
"Molina praised the pitching staff and suggested it's fine as is, from the top of the rotation to new starters Kevin Correia and Jonathan Sanchez to late-inning relievers Brad Hennessey and Brian Wilson.

"We're not in last place because of our pitching," said Molina, adding the young pitchers are "unbelievable, so much fun to catch."

and

"Molina said he couldn't sleep after Tuesday night's loss in Colorado, the team's fourth straight, and finally dozed off at 6:30 a.m. "

This is one of the many reasons I like Molina. He actually CARES, or atleast shows it! It's one thing to lose, but it's another to lose lifelessly. I think one thing that ticks off fans about this offense, besides it's terribleness(is that a word?) altogether, is the fact that they don't even look like they care. Fans are not in the lockeroom, SHOW SOME FRIGGEN EMOTION! WHY DON'T THEY SOUND LIKE THEY CARE ABOUT THE LOSSES AS MUCH AS WE DO. They should be caring even more. Losing isn't tolerated by fans, but they can soften the blows by atleast showing they CARE!

by sup3rk1ng on Sep 7, 2007 3:26 AM PDT   0 recs

Re: Damm Straight!
isn't that always the case?? The fans definitely care more than the players do. They're just pretty much mercenaries, picking up a huge paycheck. Remember those pictures of the Yankees partying in a strip club after they lost the deciding playoff game in Cleveland?? It's good to see a player that's different, and I'm glad we have a guy like Bengie.
Randy Messenger: "I'll be back this weekend just to see if Jeff Kent can hit a 95mph heater aimed right at his skull"

by rxmeister on Sep 7, 2007 7:27 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

any article...
that begins with "Molina could be the Giant MVP" is categorically not worth reading.  
Flossing a dead horse

by kenshin1 on Sep 7, 2007 3:29 AM PDT   0 recs

Re: any article...
The author's opinions (John Shea's) might not be worth reading but the article is much more about Benji Molina's opinions and they are worth reading.

by giantsrainman on Sep 7, 2007 3:35 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: any article...
Considering he's leading our team in RBI's and has been an incredibly clutch hitter this year, I'd say the possibility isn't our of the question. It's not like he said "Bengie molina IS the teams MVP", he said "could be", which only leaves the possibility. To not even consider it, is a little ridiculous.

by sup3rk1ng on Sep 7, 2007 3:36 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

LOL
To consider anyone but Barry Bonds (ZOMG Molina has so many of the RBISES, hmmm maybe because he frequently bats a spot or two behind the guy with the near .500 OBP for a good part of the season) the MVP of this team is not only ridiculous, but just plain stupid.

by awesomer on Sep 7, 2007 3:52 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: LOL
Wow, you make it sound like I'm  bashing bonds by even considering anyone other than bonds. The keyword here is considering. Not only that, but to call the thought stupid, is just absolutely ridiculous. I hope you realize that molina has the 4th lowest ERA among catchers at 3.99 to go along with his great offensive numbers. I know this team wouldn't be anywhere without bonds, but I also know it wouldn't be anywhere close without molina either.

by sup3rk1ng on Sep 7, 2007 4:07 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: LOL
Jeez, guys, it's just a hook. You're gonna fill space with some comments from Molina you lead with why listening to him is worth your while. It's pretty much Journalism 101. Doesn't seem worth getting all put out about.
My boy ain't fat, he's just big boned. Big bat, too.

by Roger on Sep 7, 2007 6:30 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: LOL
 catcher ERA has been studied extensively by the sabermatics community.    Traditional belief states that some catchers  call a better game and do a better job of framing pitches than others.  The studies don't dispute this point (I in fact believe it).   However,  every study on the issue has revealed that the diffference between catchers is negligable.   If a significant catcher effect exists, its so insignificant that it effectively cannot be parsed out from the noise in the data.

The Giants starting pitching has performed extremely well this season in terms of ERA.  This performance has far more to do with the pitcher's individual talent, the team defense and the home park than it does with Benjie Molina

PS: molina has had a decent offensive season.  Given his position, he certainly has been one of the better Giants!  That said, its hard to call his offense awesome

Flossing a dead horse

by kenshin1 on Sep 7, 2007 7:07 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: LOL
you don't know where we would be without molina?

oh, we'd still be in last place.

Pedro Feliz: He kinda hits home runs?

by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Sep 7, 2007 7:18 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: LOL
You just called Krukow ridiculous and stupid.  I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that Kruk knows more about baseball than you.

"You could make a pretty good argument has bene the most valuable Giant this season."

- Mike Krukow on the Ginats pre-game show 9/8/2007

Attention all cars: Be on the look-out for Ryan Klesko's missing power.

by Goofus on Sep 8, 2007 4:13 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: LOL
Barry Bonds   EQA: .357 WARP1,2,3: 5.9,6.7,8.6
Bengie Molina EQA: .249 WARP1,2,3: 3.3,4.1,4.6

So Barry's been worth almost twice as many wins, and this system is also being very kind to Bengie defensively (2 wins over replacement level defense I dunno about that). Being probably worth twice as many wins as the other guy = no argument in my opinion.

by awesomer on Sep 8, 2007 6:39 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: LOL
Unfortunately, that's not how MVPs are traditionally chosen.
Dave Righetti: You don't know him. / Read My Blog, Because I Write It

by howtheyscored on Sep 8, 2007 7:10 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: LOL
I love Kruk, but he's not infallible and he's just flat out wrong in this case.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Sep 8, 2007 11:20 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: LOL
You left out the part where Kruk also said the same thing about Rainman being the MVP in the CWS. Nevermind that he never played on a team that actually played in World Series. Bonds is an asshole, and thats all that matters.

In context, Kruk said in response to a thinly  disguised rhetorical question by self-confessed "Bonds is a cancer" hater and fact faker Michael Urban.

Please.

Barry Zito -- Catch Me if You Can.

by E Ticket on Sep 9, 2007 6:20 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Damm Straight!
Here is a contrast for you all to consider:

http://www.mercurynews.com/giants/ci_6825033

All I hear from Barry is how happy he is with his own numbers while all I hear from Bengie is how unhappy he is with the team's failures.  Seems pretty clear to me that Barry is the leader of the "I got my numbers" crowd and not a member of the "team first, winning is all that matter crowd" that Bengie says (and I agree) is critical to any team's sucess.

by giantsrainman on Sep 7, 2007 3:42 AM PDT   0 recs

Re: Damm Straight!
get ready to duck, the Bonds worshippers dont like hearing that....(they still believe he's only playing for a WS ring,lol)

by slojoe on Sep 7, 2007 3:47 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah Fuck Bonds
He's definitely not playing for the team at all, all he's doing is hitting those god damn selfish HR's

by awesomer on Sep 7, 2007 3:55 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Yeah Fuck Bonds
some folks on here really need to grow up...just hearing the other point of view is enough to enrage

by slojoe on Sep 7, 2007 5:42 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Yeah Fuck Bonds
no, idiots need to stop trolling and start thinking before they open their yappers.  We most often find it more silly and laughable than enraging.
Pedro Feliz: He kinda hits home runs?

by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Sep 7, 2007 6:51 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Yeah Fuck Bonds
yeah, a couple of kool-aid drinkers that absolutely
cant tolerate a different opinion on Bonds...a little too invested..quite the thinkers, too...

by slojoe on Sep 7, 2007 8:33 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Yeah Fuck Bonds
Your opinion means jack squat unless you've played in the College World Series.

Did ya get the memo?

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by otis29 on Sep 7, 2007 4:30 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Yeah Fuck Bonds
your personal opinion is that Bonds' general awesomeness only counts for his personal stats and that his selfish lazy play is keeping this team from contending, despite not fielding any other above average batter?

I see Socrates is alive and well with you.

Pedro Feliz: He kinda hits home runs?

by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Sep 7, 2007 11:02 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Yeah Fuck Bonds
no, my opinion is that Bonds doesnt really give a damn about winning a WS ring or else he would have signed with a team that had a chance last off-season...he cared big time about the HR record...doesnt matter to me i was actually less and less annoyed at Bonds after he broke the HR record because the newspaper, radio, and tv sports werent always saying "Bonds 2x4 no homers, and oh yeah Giants lose" or "Bonds Homers!! (in Giants loss)"
instead its now "Giants lose as Bonds homers"
or even "Giants win as Bonds homers"...i was actually to the point of thinking that if they re-signed Bonds for next year it might be a good thing...he puts butts in the seats, (accounted for arguably 20,000 fans by himself in the one Florida road game), maybe to the tune of $5 million?? or more a year if you count home and road?

but, he's not a team player and he's apparently not much of a human being, either...and you're not
able to handle hearing that without going off the deep end, thats too bad for you...

some Yankee fan posts on here a couple of days ago, apparently having some fun(got me, too),
and a lot of people on here get bent out of shape!
who the hell cares?? i dont understand it...

if you want to believe Bonds is J.C. off the field
help yourself

by slojoe on Sep 9, 2007 1:49 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Yeah Fuck Bonds
wait a second. you think bonds would rather hit home runs at Mays Field?  because if so, you are severely mistaken.  That park absolutely kills lefties.  He likes the city, he likes the fans.  He is a good teammate by being generally awesome.  I really could care less if he is a good human being because frankly, the world is littered with less than savory characters.  I don't understand why being a bad person makes you a worse baseball player.  That's just dumb.  

The newspaper is a newspaper. Journalists are a pack of flesh eating scum, especially sports reporters (know that i'm probably going to major in journalism next year).  If you want to hear only what the papers report, go ahead.  Ignorance is bliss.

As for Bonds, he's awesome.  he always has been and i love him.  If you think that because he's a bad teammate, we shouldn't have him, fine.  But please don't disregard his immense value to any team, it's just plain silly.

Pedro Feliz: He kinda hits home runs?

by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Sep 9, 2007 11:14 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Yeah Fuck Bonds
Bonds re-signed last year because basically no one else wanted him- not because he liked the city or the fans...so if you're complaining about him having to hit at ATT, thats HIS fault...

"he is a good teammate by being generally awesome"??
(lol) - yeah, makes sense to me

i'm not a big fan of reporters/newspapers but
if you dont want to  believe ANYTHING the papers say, go ahead - like you said "ignorance is bliss"(you must be in Paradise)

as for journalists being flesh-eating scum and you being on your way to,(you've got the condescending act down already).... hmm, now that does make sense

what is it about Bonds that makes some people want to put their heads in the sand like a two-year old...

by slojoe on Sep 11, 2007 12:23 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Yeah Fuck Bonds
Other than the Giants the only team who apparently made an offer was Texas, so I'm not sure I follow your logic. I guess you're saying that if he cared about winning he would have offered himself out to all the contenders for a veteran minimum salary?  But the industry's awash in revenue and teams were throwing around obscene amounts of cash last winter -- do you really think $$$ was the reason other teams didn't want to negotiate with him?  Funny thing about morals and standards is how completely mutable they are.  When Cal Ripken or Tony Gwynn decided they wanted to end their careers  with their "hometown" organizations, did people say "well that guy sure doesn't give a damn about winning"? I mean, I'm sure some people and there's certainly a validity to that viewpoint, but should being mercenary (e.g., Roger Clemens) really be the ideal?
My boy ain't fat, he's just big boned. Big bat, too.

by Roger on Sep 10, 2007 9:14 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Yeah Fuck Bonds
no, i dont think $$$ was the only reason other teams didn't want to negotiate with him...i dont think Clemens' career path is the ideal either...

my point is that he said his main goal is trying to get a W.S. ring- well it aint gonna happen here, and he knew that last off-season, when he decided to re-sign...that's all..

and i dont recall Cal Ripken or Tony Gwynn stating that as their last goal, or i would have said the same thing...

by slojoe on Sep 11, 2007 12:31 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Knocking Barry with facts and logic is fine
(though good luck with that). Knocking Barry for incredibly stupid hyperbole that some guy just made up is completely Scott Tenorman, totally not cool.

by awesomer on Sep 7, 2007 8:09 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Yeah Fuck Bonds
if Barry wants to come back next year, he has to sacrifice some cash. You just can't pay 15-20 million to a player who is going to sit out as many games as he's going to rest. I would think a contract where he is paid for the number of games he actually starts would be fair. As for his selfishness, he might be the most selfish player who ever played the game, but of course the way he plays the game is going to help whatever team he is on anyway.
Randy Messenger: "I'll be back this weekend just to see if Jeff Kent can hit a 95mph heater aimed right at his skull"

by rxmeister on Sep 7, 2007 7:33 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

That's the thing with 1 year contracts
In return for not having to make a multi-year commitment, you have to pay more for the 1 year.

$15-$20 million is about what a player with Bonds' production is worth in the current market.

Assuming that his defense is pretty poor, about -15 runs / 150 games, he is about 3 wins above an average player. That's worth about $20 million.

by rfloh on Sep 7, 2007 10:53 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Damm Straight!
That article actually isn't particularly selfish except that it only quotes Bonds answering questions about himself. None of these responses are about the team because nobody is asking him about the Giants.

There is an obvious slant here, just like there is a minor slant in the Molina article. It proves little to me except that nobody is interested in listening to Bonds talk about other things.

It's not like Bonds is "all about the team!" because that's obviously not true, but I don't think this article is designed to have anything to do with that possibility to begin with. That's why it feels to us like something isn't adding up in your logic in comparing the two articles.

Dave Righetti: You don't know him. / Read My Blog, Because I Write It

by howtheyscored on Sep 7, 2007 8:18 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Damm Straight!
It's also laughable that you posted an entire Diary on Bengie Molina for the express purpose of coming back later to compare Bonds negatively to him.

You might as well have just titled the Diary "Molina Proves Bonds is useless selfish jackass with words, actions."

That would have been more direct.

Dave Righetti: You don't know him. / Read My Blog, Because I Write It

by howtheyscored on Sep 7, 2007 8:25 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Damm Straight!
That's basically what I see happening here.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 7, 2007 11:24 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Damm Straight!
Again, I ask you to explain what this means. What does "playing for one's self" look like? Is it just a question of media spin? If Barry says all the right things in the press and puts up ridiculous numbers, is he "team first"? If he is a sullen, thorny sumbitch and puts up ridiculous numbers, is he "playing for his own numbers"?

Please to explain.

Billy Hayes: Nine more big-league plate appearances than you.

by delorean on Sep 7, 2007 9:21 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Damm Straight!
exactly. It's a hate Bonds thing. We just had an incident in football where Michael Strahan didn't feel like having two a day workouts in 90 degree heat, so he pretended he was going to retire and skipped the entire pre-season. One of his teammates was quoted as saying, "whatever he does is fine. We're like 40 private CEO's here." Nobody even condemned him for this comment. Can you imagine the fuss if Barry made a selfish comment like that??
Randy Messenger: "I'll be back this weekend just to see if Jeff Kent can hit a 95mph heater aimed right at his skull"

by rxmeister on Sep 7, 2007 10:04 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Damm Straight!
That link didn't work for me.
Steve Kline: Lately, significantly less okay

by groug on Sep 7, 2007 12:40 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Damm Straight!
I have no problem with Molina's remarks and I think he's done a lot to help the team this year.  That being said, Molina could further help by coming to spring training about 30 pounds lighter, which might help him actually score from second base on a single    once in a while.   Slim down, Benjie, your knees with thank you one day.

by Widget on Sep 7, 2007 6:20 AM PDT   0 recs

Re: Damm Straight!
Yeah, Molina has been a lot better defensively thean I expected, and he's provided some offense at a tough position.

Two cheers for Bengie.

there is no pain greater than being behind the Rockies in the standings

by oldjacket on Sep 7, 2007 7:51 AM PDT   0 recs

Re: Damm Straight!
Really? I've been pretty unhappy with his D. He seems to miss catching a lot of balls when he has to range left or right even the slightest.

He's tied for the NL lead in passed balls with 14. His FRAA, fielding runs above average, is 0, which puts him as a average defensive catcher.

by xanthan on Sep 7, 2007 8:19 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Damm Straight!
I agree with Xanthan. Also, he couldn't throw himself out if he was stealing second.
Dave Righetti: You don't know him. / Read My Blog, Because I Write It

by howtheyscored on Sep 7, 2007 8:23 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Damm Straight!
I would, however, pay a lot to watch that.
Adoptive father of David Quinowski: Fuck it, dude, let's go bowling

by marcello on Sep 7, 2007 8:47 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Damm Straight!
I agree, I think his D has been pretty terrible.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Sep 7, 2007 9:10 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Damm Straight!
I feel like he's been ok to the left or right, it's any ball at his shoulders or above that he has trouble with.  Either way, too many passed balls.
The Maharajai steals at will (plus he's not Matt Morris).

by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Sep 7, 2007 5:38 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Damm Straight!
Finally someone says it.  What this team needs is more guys pissed off that we're losing, we don't need better players.  You get enough guys pissed off about losing and you can create the perfect storm.  Obviously/Naturally, 10 game winning streaks follow.  Get it together Sabean, stop getting players that are shitty and don't care; load this team up with shitty players who do care.  Sign me up for a double helping of Eckstein and Erstad.  They'll show this team a thing or two about caring.

Or, you know, just sign some players who aren't old and shitty.  That way we don't have to read garbage hindsight analysis about how not caring causes teams to lose (obviously the article linked isn't saying this outright, but I feel that the implication is there.  Regardless, there are plenty of articles that do say this and it's getting old).

Adoptive father of David Quinowski: Fuck it, dude, let's go bowling

by marcello on Sep 7, 2007 8:57 AM PDT   0 recs

Re: Damm Straight!

"we don't need better players ... Or, you know, just sign some players who aren't old and shitty."

ummmm

Also, death before Eckstein.

Billy Hayes: Nine more big-league plate appearances than you.

by delorean on Sep 7, 2007 9:23 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Damm Straight!
I think you fell into the sarchasm. :)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Sep 7, 2007 9:25 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

D'OH!
more coffee please! :)
Billy Hayes: Nine more big-league plate appearances than you.

by delorean on Sep 7, 2007 9:27 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: D'OH!
Friends don't let friends post without enough coffee in their system.
Adoptive father of David Quinowski: Fuck it, dude, let's go bowling

by marcello on Sep 7, 2007 10:02 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

BMoney
Great to hear my Boricua has the heart of a lion and has drawn praise from his coach, manager, and media.

As for team MVP we should know soon what his peers think of him.

by wilriv21 on Sep 7, 2007 9:27 AM PDT   0 recs

Re: Damm Straight!
Molina has been a pleasant surprise this year. Then again, I was sold on the guy when he was interviewed the morning of the first spring training game and called it a "must-win."

That said, I don't expect him to put up the same offensive numbers in 2008. We need a good backup catcher who can eventually replace him. Knoedler, anyone?

Lon Simmons' adopted dad.

by Kitspool on Sep 7, 2007 9:55 AM PDT   0 recs

Re: Damm Straight!
Over/Under on number of games until better-than-expected hitting numbers from a SF catcher results in a concussion? I'm going with 47.
with fangs!

by thegiantsrj00r0x0r on Sep 7, 2007 10:16 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Damm Straight!
I really don't like it when players call out other players in the media without naming names, though it's pretty obvious who Bengie is talking about when he says "if you think only for yourself and your numbers and not the team, you're probably going to have a so-so year."

Since there is only one player on this team with any numbers to even think about or care about or be bothered to mention, BONDS, Bengie is clearly talking about him.

Though, I never totally understood "playing for the team" vs. "playing for yourself." Do they look different? It isn't as if Bonds has refused to sacrifice bunt or move the runner over by grounding out to the right side. He isn't asked to do those things. It isn't his job to do those things. Is the problem that he doesn't go to dinner with Bengie after the game? Is that what he's bitching about? Does that matter that much?

And for the millionth time. It isn't Bonds's fault that Ray Durham is hitting .218. Or that Feliz has an OBP of under .300. Or that Klesko swings from his heels on every pitch but has very little power to show for it, or that the bullpen has been shaky, or that Omar's offense has declined, or that Aurilia was expected to be a starting 1b and can't stay healthy and would still suck if he was, or that Zito can't find the strike zone, or that Dave Roberts keeps getting injured and isn't really that good, or that Matt Morris kept getting shelled after June 11, or that Mando didn't work out, or that no one on the Giants is cable of running the bases intelligently and we have the worst 3b coach in the league or that this team was populated with a bunch of dinosaurs!

Bonds has been the best position player on the team. I'd say Randy Winn has been the 2nd, Bengie the 3rd (he's handled the pitchers well and has come up huge in so many spots and driven in a bunch of runs. he's also kinda fun to watch. his defense is avg at best.) Then oddly, Feliz, the 4th. That just shows how piss poor this team is, but it isn't a reflection on Bonds.

It just amazes me that people are so quick to claim that the one guy who has done the most to help the team win is not a team player. Just garbage.

Bonds stands alone.

by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 7, 2007 1:19 PM PDT   0 recs

+1
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Sep 7, 2007 1:37 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: +1
No +1 from me. I love Barry Bonds as much as the next Giant fan, but he tried to hit homeruns all year long as he attempted to break Hank Aaron's record. There were times when a single to the opposite field would have helped the team, but Barry was swinging from the heels anyway. If Bengie is talking about Barry, he is correct in what he says. Barry is a great, great player, but he IS selfish when he tries to hit a homerun every time up.
Randy Messenger: "I'll be back this weekend just to see if Jeff Kent can hit a 95mph heater aimed right at his skull"

by rxmeister on Sep 7, 2007 10:22 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: No +1 I said!!
forgot to change the subject heading. Sorry!!
Randy Messenger: "I'll be back this weekend just to see if Jeff Kent can hit a 95mph heater aimed right at his skull"

by rxmeister on Sep 7, 2007 10:23 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: +1
There have been some pretty interesting discussions here on the idea of Barry changing his approach (even, perhaps, situationally), and there are pretty convincing arguments to be played both ways.

I won't say which side I fall on, because that's not the point right now, but I do appreciate how extraordinarily complex the "Barry is a selfish player" issue can really get.

Dave Righetti: You don't know him. / Read My Blog, Because I Write It

by howtheyscored on Sep 7, 2007 10:33 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: +1
I don't get this kind of comment. Bonds hits balls to the opposite field all the time. I watched tonight, I see an opposite field single and an up the middle should have been single. He had two RBI singles the opposite way in a game last week.  A hefty amount of his homers the last two years have been to the opposite field. Do you have some kind of hit chart showing me that Bonds doesn't hit a fair amount of his balls (particularly his hits) to the opposite field, because I'd have to see some evidence. My eyes tells me it's simply not true.
My boy ain't fat, he's just big boned. Big bat, too.

by Roger on Sep 7, 2007 10:55 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: +1
Seems to me (though I have nothing to back it up) that he's lacing more singles since passing Aaron. Perhaps reaching 3,000 hits is more important than reaching 800 HRs.
Attention all cars: Be on the look-out for Ryan Klesko's missing power.

by Goofus on Sep 8, 2007 8:31 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Damm Straight!
I don't necessarily agree with your assumption. Molina's quoted as saying, "if you think only for yourself and your numbers and not the team, you're probably going to have a so-so year. But if you play for the team, to win, you're going to have way better numbers." According to that logic, Bonds is putting up the best numbers on the team because he's playing to win.
Proud adoptive father of the All-Father, currently sandbagging in Augusta.

by EliminateMe on Sep 7, 2007 4:23 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Damm Straight!
Molina is clearly referring to Dan Ortmeier.  Geez, if only that guy would think about the team once in a while.
The Maharajai steals at will (plus he's not Matt Morris).

by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Sep 7, 2007 5:41 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Damm Straight!
If you ask me, Pedro Feliz is the king of the so-so year. He's pretty much made a career out of it.
Proud adoptive father of the All-Father, currently sandbagging in Augusta.

by EliminateMe on Sep 7, 2007 5:53 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Damm Straight!
Finally!  'Bout time you came through Ortmeier.  I'm so glad Molina called you out.
The Maharajai steals at will (plus he's not Matt Morris).

by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Sep 8, 2007 12:15 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Damm Straight!
i think its a stretch to think he's speaking only about Bonds..i doubt he would have brought it up
if he thought there were 24 going all out and only Bonds wasnt....from what ive seen in the last few years Durham isnt incredibly concerned about winning
and i dont think Klesko is either...Roberts?Richie? Zito?(Zito just wants to f your mother, or whatever his song is)
PEople on here didnt like Matt Morris for having the
"gall" to say what he did, which i dont understand, because some of what he said rang true to me..the "sideshow" has been more important than winning- Larry Baer said some kind of crap like "we aren't selling baseball. we're selling an 'experience'", which ought to tell you that even the front office apparently doesn't consider winning the main objective....

by slojoe on Sep 9, 2007 2:05 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Damm Straight!
People hate to lose? When did this start happening?
Adopted Giant: Randy Winn. Can't wait for Zito to start Opening Day '08 so I can get a leg up on my drinking.

by Punch Rockgroin on Sep 7, 2007 5:50 PM PDT   0 recs

Re: Damm Straight!
It was pretty big in the sixties, but died out by the end of the decade. It's apparently experiencing a revival.
Dave Righetti: You don't know him. / Read My Blog, Because I Write It

by howtheyscored on Sep 7, 2007 6:15 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Damm Straight!
I don't understand why people are taking this and making this an insinuation about Bonds considering that MOLINA HIMSELF IN THIS ARTICLE was quoted as saying the following:

"We have a saying in Puerto Rico: 'I put my little piece in the puzzle.' What I do on the field is my piece. But I can not carry the team. Barry Bonds can not carry the team. Ray Durham, nobody. This has to be done together."

The way I understand that phrasing is that he is absolving Barry (and Ray-Ray) of doing the numbers above team thing.

So people, stop trying to make this into something its not.

Rehabbing for the Giants, Roooooooooooooos Ortiz

by Hac Man on Sep 7, 2007 8:09 PM PDT   0 recs

Re: Damm Straight!
Bengie may not have made the insinuation, but rainman certainly did.
Adoptive father of David Quinowski: Fuck it, dude, let's go bowling

by marcello on Sep 8, 2007 9:18 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs